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tchen40
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| expat wrote: |
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Expat,
Thats my issue. I cannot uncatalog the clone library because I placed it on an SMS controlled volume. Even if I placed it on a non-SMS controlled volume, how do I uncatalog the original which is on an SMS volume.
There should just be a force command, let me do it, I know what I'm doing parm. I wouldn't even mind if it generated a pop up window saying "Are You Sure ?" |
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expat
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You create the clone library as a different name from the original.
i.e. ABC.LOADLIB is copied to ABC.LOADLIB.COPY
Then, use IDCAMS DELETE NOSCRATCH to uncatalog the ABC.LOADLIB.COPY, then rename it to ABC.LOADLIB using IEHPROGM whilst it is uncatalog'd, because IDCAMS will expect the dataset to be catalog'd for RENAME processing and will fail because it can not find the target dataset.
If IDCAMS doesn't work for the uncatalog, try IEHPROGM to do the uncatalog. |
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tchen40
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UNCATLG DSNAME=MHTLTC.CSCP.CLSCICS.LINKLIB
IEH210I YOUR REQUEST CANNOT BE SERVICED....
UNCATALOG OF AN SMS MANAGED DATA SET IS NOT ALLOWED ... UNUSUAL END
I tried IEFBR14 and IDCAMS Delete nonvsam nscr as well.. SMS is just not going to allow it. |
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CICS Guy
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| tchen40 wrote: |
IEH210I YOUR REQUEST CANNOT BE SERVICED....
UNCATALOG OF AN SMS MANAGED DATA SET IS NOT ALLOWED |
Unless I'm missing something, NO SMS managed dataset can be uncataloged....... |
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expat
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| I would guess that maybe this could be a site specific issue as I have NEVER seen that message before when I have used either IDCAMS or IEHPROGM to uncatalog a dataset |
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enrico-sorichetti
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Not site specific... SMS specific
all the SMS managed datasets must be cataloged |
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Anuj D.
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Hi,
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| NO SMS managed dataset can be uncataloged |
Then we can try to allocate the DSN on non-SMS volume & delete it from SMS volume.
I think an ACS routine can override the storage class that you specify on the STORCLAS parameter. Per manuals (QW) STORCLAS can be omitted even if SMS is active if an Automatic Class Selection (ACS) SMS exit is in use at your site.
Please check the last 5-6 posts from this thread, they tell how can one overide or place a DSN on a NON-SMS volume.
http://www.ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?t=275&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
I tried it, ah.. I'm not a storage guy, hard time in getting volume-serials numbers of non-SMS vloumes ( if any at my site). By the time you can give a try, might help. |
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CICS Guy
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| Anuj D. wrote: |
| Then we can try to allocate the DSN on non-SMS volume & delete it from SMS volume. |
I think that has been what the prevalent recommendation has been..... |
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tchen40
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| lol give it up everybody.. I'm destined to wake up @ 3AM and move it while CICS regions are down. It's a lot easier. |
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expat
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| Can you not leave (or get scheduled) a job to perform the library renames as soon as CICS comes down ? |
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tchen40
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| Sure can, but I prefer to play it safe. |
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Anuj D.
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| CICS Guy wrote: |
| I think that has been what the prevalent recommendation has been..... |
I thought that ACS routine thing is not been suggeseted yet..well..  |
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CICS Guy
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| Anuj D. wrote: |
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| I think that has been what the prevalent recommendation has been..... |
I thought that ACS routine thing is not been suggeseted yet..well.. |
I'm as confused as you, heck I can't even spell ACS, let alone what to do with it....
Just to say, that after I started working in an SMS environment, there had always been a way to assign an allocation to a non SMS volume, it was limited and it did not last long (not even overnight usually), but it could be done....... |
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Anuj D.
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| I'm as confused as you |
I'm not..  , well, I just can't try it that fast as a system/storage guy could..
Some shops implement this by code in the ACS routine like this:
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| IF &STORCLASS='NONSMS' THEN SET STORCLAS='' |
But then there are other ways that the ACS routines can have a
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e.g. it may just be coded that if you specify a certain (NONSMS) volser in your JCL then the ACS code will "honour" the allocation.
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| IF &ANYVOL='SYS%%%' THEN SET STORCLAS='' |
Again, I'm not a storage guy, but an application engineer (only 'they' say, I still feel I'm quite dum*..  ) all above written I know because manual says so & perhaps it's been posted in this forum as well. I never tried it but one in need can..
BTW, he already decided something ..
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| destined to wake up @ 3AM |
have a good one,
later |
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